The followings are my experiences for roll forming machine. If you did not agree with that, it is no problem. It is my personal knowledge for friend,only.
I want to talk what is Quotation. I am serious, not kidding now. I tell you why i show quotation. There are two kinds of quotation.
One is not for you, another is for you. I explain the one which is not for you. You can get quotation but the drawing or panel is not your market or your request. So even you get quotation, it can not help you anything. Easy to be followed by that seller. They will sell you stocked machine.
What is stocked machine:
1. Bad quality machine,
2. Used machine: factories sold used machines for clients, because they will use new types and popular machines.
3. China popular machines: we must have stocked for China markets, so we can get order ASAP. But drawings are not suitable for your country.
4. client did not receive that machine quality, so they did not pay balance money; or clients changed this plan and do not do this business.
So you must understand what is your requirements for roll forming machine,
Drawing, Coil width, coil thickness, coil hardness. Voltage. Speed( how many meters for one minute) PLC brand. Frame strong or not and etc.
If you know above details. So you can start to ask sellers for quotation. Why i use Sellers here,
Seller=factory=trader company=trader=cheater.
Factory= rich experience factories= low experience factories=Foreign market factory=Only China market.
Rich experience factories: understand that panel very well. Know problem of that machines, so can give you suggestions. But not mean you can get good machine from that factory. Because there are a lot of people for working in that factory. Whether you can find a rich experienced sellers to cooperator. It is important. Because you need after sale service from the seller. The seller is important. Because whether can understand what you real needed and give all information included in Produce order. Because some seller just want to get your order and reduce your requirement to company. So you can accept his price and company can accept the cost.
Low experience factories: they did not know what you want, just yes, no problem, not bad price, and produce machine for you.
Little factory: few rich experienced workers and engineers or no engineer. They can spare parts and install in one place.
Foreign market factory: they can sell machines and produce machines for other countries.
Only China Market: they do china market only, but someone thinks international business can make more money, so they also do that business.
Trader company: they buy machines from many factories. They can do business in any price. But remember that: Trader company price= factory price + profits of trader company.
They buy machines for profits. If no profits, they will not do that. After-sale service is a problem. Because when problem, you will ask trader company. And trader company ask factory. But as you know, trader company just pay few money to factory, so there is no after-sale in contract.
Trader: only one person who has a website in Alibaba or others. Part time business. Even you find a good trader, do you think he can help you after-sale service very well. Maybe you can receive : I am sorry. Sorry can not repair your machine.
Cheater= i do not know cheater very well. Just know you can not get what you want.
How to compare the quotation if you receive that.
Compare the main parameters including :
Number stations: 9 or 10 or 16 or 18 stations;
Diameter of shaft: 70mm or 75mm or 80mm. Before polishing is 70mm finished is 60mm. Empty or solid shaft. Some shafts are welding by round pipes, not solid.
PLC brand: China brand or Taiwan brand or Japan or Germany brand.
Frame: whether strong.
Compare prices:
Low range: compare them together
Middle range: compare them together
High range: compare them together.
Do not use low price range to compare with middle range and high range. Because you can not use compare golden with steel. Value is different. I know most people choose the middle range.
But you need compare middle range with high range, whether big difference. Because profits and cost are different.
If most factories give you above 15000 usd, so you can throw price under 10000 usd. For example, most price is about 15000 usd. But still factory give you 40000 usd. You can compare it carefully, even you can not buy from them, but you you can get some information from that company. Because some factory just produce machine by high profits. Like iphone. Price of iphone is expensive, but still a lot of people buy. But most do not buy iphone. Iphone just sell for high profits. Because someone like its system.
Remember that high price can reduce if you want to buy but low price can add price if you ordered.
Ted tell you one story. Story is told by one client. I do not know whether it is true or not.
He bought machine by 5000 usd but others’prcie is from 9000-15000, he made a right decision to choose lowest price that he can reduce the machine cost. So client sent advance payment. Client thought he would get machine in short days( they told him within 25 days) But when it passed about 15 days after advance payment, client asked that factory, how is my machine. That factory did not write him back timely even called. Then factory told him that these days were so busy that i will check the schedule of your machine with engineer. But he got answer that his machine did not produce, because engineer gave wrong parameters and prices. Boss did not agree with that order. If you wanted to produce, our best price is 15000 Usd. After talking, price is 13000 usd. So client was angry but he could do nothing. Just pay money again.
No cheap goods good.
If you will make your final decision, you should think that who will you cooperate
Seller+factory. Factory is important and seller is also important for you.
Because you get all things from the seller.
I think above information can tell you a lot. Can help you a little.
It is my personal suggestion. Do not show to others.
If any questions, feel free to contact with me.
Thanks
Best Regards
Ted
ted@yufamachinery.com
Whatsapp:008615031898708
2018-5-14
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